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Dear Painter Community,
I've started using Corel Painter X3 recently, and I think it's a great program. There's one function regarding brushes I would like to change.
When painting with real paint, an artist will dab a brush in paint and then apply it to the canvas. The artist would not reload a brush with after every brush stroke – he/she would work the paint already on the brush to draw/render, or shade. Painter, however, reloads paint on my brush loads with every new stroke. The result is that I end up continually darkening an area past its intended value.
Is there any way to change the default brush behavior in Painter so that it doesn't automatically reload paint? I've scoured the user guide and searched online for an answer to my question, but I haven't found anything.
Any advice or suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Pietro

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  • psiciliano
    When painting with real paint, an artist will dab a brush in paint and then apply it to the canvas. The artist would not reload a brush with paint after every brush stroke – he/she would work the paint already on the brush to draw/render, or shade.

    Many alla prima painters would disagree with you. The only time I don't reload an oil brush is if I scumble in a background with a bright or make a sketch. Otherwise every stroke starts out at my palette with fresh paint.

    psiciliano
    The result is that I end up continually darkening an area past its intended value.

    This happen in real life too, if you glaze layer over layer, it darkens because the transparent layer gets thicker and the light bounces more and more in the substrate, each time it hits a pigment particle in the vehicle / binder, it loses light. The thicker it gets, the more pigment particles it hits and the more light gets removed.

    It's the same as how colored glass works, the thicker it is, the less light it lets through.

    When you glaze, each consecutive layer darkens your work. The only way to lighten it, is to add opaque paint, since opaque paint reflects light instead of trapping it (which is why white paint is always opaque and why people who use watercolor, transparent paint, use their paper to represent white, or use gouache).

    Painter accurately mimmicks this. If you take a glazing oil brush in Painter, you can not make the color lighter, adding a lighter color actually does nothing. The only way to lighten an area is to pick alla prima brushes, that use opaque paint.

  • In reply to Ganweianiex:

    Hello, Ganweianiex, and thanks for your response and suggestions!
    Is there any way to scumble with Painter brushes? That's exactly what I was trying to ask about.
  • In reply to psiciliano:

    Since scumbling is simply the canvas grain pulling off dry paint. All you need to recreate it is set a brush at low wetness, change grain until you see it is picking up the paper texture, and use low opacity.

    I don't scumble that much in real life, it's nice for skies, or light shining through trees, but it requires an already dry background, and with oils it's not very productive, in acrylics it's nice for clouds and shades.

  • In reply to Ganweianiex:

    Ok, Ganweianiex, thanks for clarifying this for me! I sense there's no way to just set a brush so that it just exhausts its supply of paint after any given number of brush strokes. That'd be cool, though, especially if paired with pressure sensitivity so that more pressure would apply more of the paint available on the brush. :)
  • In reply to psiciliano:

    Hi Pietro,

    There are some brushes that do exhaust their supply of paint...not after a given number of brush stokes, but if you keep your stylus down on the tablet and paint, the brush can be made to run out of Paint.  There are certain default brushes that do this normally.  And those brushes have a setting called dirty mode, which doesn't refresh the paint from the color panel, but with each brush stroke you paint with the mixed color on the canvas.  It is much easier to show in a video, so I did one that I hope will help.


    Skip Allen

    Skip Allen Instructor Digital Art Academy Corel Painter Master Elite http://skipallenpaints.com/

  • In reply to skipallen:

    Hello, Skip!
    Thanks ever so much to taking the time to respond to my question and for posting this excellent video!
    I'll familiarize myself with the artists' brushes and the various settings for them you outlined. Although I would still prefer if Painter brushes didn't reload after every new stroke, I think I can use your advice to work around this limitation. :)